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The Matrix wasn't deep. It was good because of Carrie-Anne Moss in tight black leather and cool kung-fu fighting when the agents could have just made reloaded their guns with a thought.
Posted by: Jeff Liu at March 1, 2003 5:30 PM
True -- on an aesthetic sense, it was indeed an pioneering flick! Though I'll be interested to see how they follow it up in the sequel. I recently rented The Matrix to re-watch (wondering if maybe I'd missed something the first time around, since I found it so intellectually thin, while many of my quite-smart friends raved about it (and by the way, the second viewing only reconfirmed for me how half-assed is the pseudo-philosophizing in the movie)), and I noticed that, three years later, the special effects don't seem all that amazing anymore. They pioneered, but then so many people have followed suit -- particularly with the slo-mo chop socky moves -- that the original Matrix paled in comparison to its copycats, interestingly.
But by all means, I am certainly ready for more Carrie Anne Moss in tight leather.
Posted by: Clive at March 1, 2003 5:48 PM
Clive, you've said this to me before, and I have to ask you: has anyone REALLY raved about the philosophy, or just the fights? Because a movie like that is all about the execution. The plot has elements of STAR WARS, and especially TERMINATOR, so you don't want to put too much into that, either.
I prefer to think that, whatever the characters may say, and no amtter how Keabu is presented, the movie is really about how the fanatic belief of Morpheus and Trinity MAKE Neo The One when otherwise, he would just be a kind of dull tool. Not a Christ fantasy, but a St. Paul fantasy.
OK, I'm just making shit up now.
Posted by: Fray at March 2, 2003 12:58 PM
I love that St. Paul fantasy idea!
As to people raving about The Matrix: Believe me, I regularly listen to friends with advanced degrees, gush on about how smart it is. And they actually make distinctions between, say, The Matrix and Star Wars. Star Wars, they'll tell you, is just a great action movie with a sort of silly, hippie-like mysticism laid over it. But The Matrix -- that actually makes you think about the world in a new way.
Well, yes, it does! If you're in grade three and you've never before considered the idea -- yes, it does make you think.
Posted by: Clive at March 2, 2003 1:38 PM
Actually, it's Carrie Anne Moss in SHINY tight black leather that makes the difference. Ahem.
I saw Dark City a few months before I saw The Matrix, and I thought while the themes were quite similar, Dark City did it better.
(I would love a Danger HipTop, but they wouldn't work in Singapore. Bah.)
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Quite right on that leather fact-check.
Dark City was a just wildly strange flick. Unbelievably creepy art direction! Super-noire!
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Screw The Matrix! They are making a movie trilogy of the Elric books by Michael Moorcock. Give me the decadent, drug taking chaos worshiping albino sorceror over slack jawed Keanu any day. Its the role Johnny Depp was born to play. Imagine Bowie in a sword and sorcery flick. He's an incarnation of Sartre with a demon haunted broadsword.
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Posted by: Jeff Liu at March 1, 2003 5:30 PM
True -- on an aesthetic sense, it was indeed an pioneering flick! Though I'll be interested to see how they follow it up in the sequel. I recently rented The Matrix to re-watch (wondering if maybe I'd missed something the first time around, since I found it so intellectually thin, while many of my quite-smart friends raved about it (and by the way, the second viewing only reconfirmed for me how half-assed is the pseudo-philosophizing in the movie)), and I noticed that, three years later, the special effects don't seem all that amazing anymore. They pioneered, but then so many people have followed suit -- particularly with the slo-mo chop socky moves -- that the original Matrix paled in comparison to its copycats, interestingly.
But by all means, I am certainly ready for more Carrie Anne Moss in tight leather.
Posted by: Clive at March 1, 2003 5:48 PM
Clive, you've said this to me before, and I have to ask you: has anyone REALLY raved about the philosophy, or just the fights? Because a movie like that is all about the execution. The plot has elements of STAR WARS, and especially TERMINATOR, so you don't want to put too much into that, either.
I prefer to think that, whatever the characters may say, and no amtter how Keabu is presented, the movie is really about how the fanatic belief of Morpheus and Trinity MAKE Neo The One when otherwise, he would just be a kind of dull tool. Not a Christ fantasy, but a St. Paul fantasy.
OK, I'm just making shit up now.
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I love that St. Paul fantasy idea!
As to people raving about The Matrix: Believe me, I regularly listen to friends with advanced degrees, gush on about how smart it is. And they actually make distinctions between, say, The Matrix and Star Wars. Star Wars, they'll tell you, is just a great action movie with a sort of silly, hippie-like mysticism laid over it. But The Matrix -- that actually makes you think about the world in a new way.
Well, yes, it does! If you're in grade three and you've never before considered the idea -- yes, it does make you think.
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Actually, it's Carrie Anne Moss in SHINY tight black leather that makes the difference. Ahem.
I saw Dark City a few months before I saw The Matrix, and I thought while the themes were quite similar, Dark City did it better.
(I would love a Danger HipTop, but they wouldn't work in Singapore. Bah.)
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Dark City was a just wildly strange flick. Unbelievably creepy art direction! Super-noire!
Posted by: Clive at March 2, 2003 9:04 PM
Screw The Matrix! They are making a movie trilogy of the Elric books by Michael Moorcock. Give me the decadent, drug taking chaos worshiping albino sorceror over slack jawed Keanu any day. Its the role Johnny Depp was born to play. Imagine Bowie in a sword and sorcery flick. He's an incarnation of Sartre with a demon haunted broadsword.
Posted by: Erik Weissengruber at March 2, 2003 9:49 PM
Everybody was
kOng-fu-fighting
(dirilid-dirilid-diriliddiddidd ...)
What a Schmonsens.
Thank you.
Posted by: Bundeskanzler at September 20, 2003 9:40 PM
Do not buy LOTR.
Do buy HP.
Heheh.
:/
For i am dah Queen of Bladez.
None shall ever dispute my rule.
Again.
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