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Amazing stuff. When you think about all the levels of knowledge, skill and aesthetic choices that go into a piece of art, or for that matter, the level of complexity that goes into something like machine vision, an application that could do something like detect authenticity seems worlds away. But somehow, when it's stripped of all of that and reduced to data, finding a pattern in the data that would separate a pretender from the real thing isn't impossible.
In grad school a professor casually introduced neural nets as a way to analyze, then generate, data sets for music. He mentioned that these nets were being used as a pretty reliable indicator of the composer of origin (i.e. is this piece really a J.S. Bach, or a fake? No, not the guy from Skid Row).
What if Sakhai worked with Robert Peake (both earlier posts)? Talk about 'collision detection', huh?
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Excellent set of links to connectionist models of music, sir!
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interestingly, the problem of developing an eye for fakery is complicated by the fact that there are so many fakes, in relation to the number of truly-authenticated works.
advances in technical analysis- of which i include mr. postma's efforts- will always make the archnacometrist's job easier. but when it comes down to it, sometimes it's all about gut feelings. thomas hoving, late of the new york met, described how famed art historian Bernard Berenson would sometimes react to fakes. that even in the absence of any scientific indications of dubiosity, berenson would say that his stomach felt wrong, that he felt a curious ringing in his ears, or that he was struck by a momentary depression.
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In grad school a professor casually introduced neural nets as a way to analyze, then generate, data sets for music. He mentioned that these nets were being used as a pretty reliable indicator of the composer of origin (i.e. is this piece really a J.S. Bach, or a fake? No, not the guy from Skid Row).
What if Sakhai worked with Robert Peake (both earlier posts)? Talk about 'collision detection', huh?
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Excellent set of links to connectionist models of music, sir!
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interesting additions to the toolbox of the fakebusters. i believe we are many many years from any machine learning capable of matching the sophisticated eye of a true expert. some very deep synthetic processes of analysis go into a "feel" for bogus works.
interestingly, the problem of developing an eye for fakery is complicated by the fact that there are so many fakes, in relation to the number of truly-authenticated works.
advances in technical analysis- of which i include mr. postma's efforts- will always make the archnacometrist's job easier. but when it comes down to it, sometimes it's all about gut feelings. thomas hoving, late of the new york met, described how famed art historian Bernard Berenson would sometimes react to fakes. that even in the absence of any scientific indications of dubiosity, berenson would say that his stomach felt wrong, that he felt a curious ringing in his ears, or that he was struck by a momentary depression.
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